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		<title>By: Nae</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If my delegate, or my at-large BOD member, is NOT there to vote according to my interests, opinions, or values, then how are they going to be represented? Do I have a voice in this association, or don’t I?&quot;

I have to admire that you still have faith in that and I do mean that. 

I would have to say, NO, I don&#039;t think any general member has had a voice on what goes on in this organization for a very long time. That went away years ago when the duties and responsibilities of the HOD POP book got rewritten to remove that pesky sentence telling them they had an obligation to listen to and vote the way the majority of their electorate wanted them to. My local chapter is certainly one of the more functional ones, the more financially secure ones, but does any of that common sense carry over to the national level? If you were asking me I would say flatly no, and I really can&#039;t see folks there being really eager to turn that money they are so good at raising and using productively in this state to the national organization, to have to petition them for permission to use the money they raised in the way they feel is needed here locally. And, even if this whole plan goes hooey, and the organization &quot;fails&quot; as keeps being threatened ... nothing can really stop those local volunteers and members from meeting, doing their projects, making friends if that is what their hearts really feel needs to be done. So, speaking just for me, I don&#039;t think that is the important question right now. 

I fully understand this concept of the BOD/HOD voting for what they think is best for that nebulous thing called the &quot;organization.&quot; It is a really dandy concept if the BOD/HOD are the only ones footing the bill to operate that organization. But they are not are they? When all is said and done, they are expecting the folks who collectively pay a lot of the bills with their membership checks to be happy about being bypassed while these few make that huge decision to change the entire organization ... not to be tacky, but if they really felt that is what the members wanted/needed to survive why are they so darn reluctant to tell them exactly what is going on instead of dressing it up in airy fantasies about what &quot;might be?&quot;  

Where is the properly thought out, structured, fiscally responsible plan for doing this that members can see? Discuss? By our own admission there is not one, and will not be one in even a minimally effective amount of time to take it to the general membership for thought and consideration, so just how much do we really care about what those members think? I would have to say not a whole lot. We are told we will have only a cobbled up version that is &quot;subject to massive changes&quot; once voted on, that delegates will get when? A day, a week, before they have to vote on it?  If this is the first example of how those &quot;few&quot; are so much more qualified to run the organization, of their planning abilities, I would have to say that it is falling really, really short of the hype about their abilities. I would have to say that those who really are being allowed to vote better start looking at that utter lack of planning with cold hard realism not pink wishes and puppy dog tails. 

Nae
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If my delegate, or my at-large BOD member, is NOT there to vote according to my interests, opinions, or values, then how are they going to be represented? Do I have a voice in this association, or don’t I?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to admire that you still have faith in that and I do mean that. </p>
<p>I would have to say, NO, I don&#8217;t think any general member has had a voice on what goes on in this organization for a very long time. That went away years ago when the duties and responsibilities of the HOD POP book got rewritten to remove that pesky sentence telling them they had an obligation to listen to and vote the way the majority of their electorate wanted them to. My local chapter is certainly one of the more functional ones, the more financially secure ones, but does any of that common sense carry over to the national level? If you were asking me I would say flatly no, and I really can&#8217;t see folks there being really eager to turn that money they are so good at raising and using productively in this state to the national organization, to have to petition them for permission to use the money they raised in the way they feel is needed here locally. And, even if this whole plan goes hooey, and the organization &#8220;fails&#8221; as keeps being threatened &#8230; nothing can really stop those local volunteers and members from meeting, doing their projects, making friends if that is what their hearts really feel needs to be done. So, speaking just for me, I don&#8217;t think that is the important question right now. </p>
<p>I fully understand this concept of the BOD/HOD voting for what they think is best for that nebulous thing called the &#8220;organization.&#8221; It is a really dandy concept if the BOD/HOD are the only ones footing the bill to operate that organization. But they are not are they? When all is said and done, they are expecting the folks who collectively pay a lot of the bills with their membership checks to be happy about being bypassed while these few make that huge decision to change the entire organization &#8230; not to be tacky, but if they really felt that is what the members wanted/needed to survive why are they so darn reluctant to tell them exactly what is going on instead of dressing it up in airy fantasies about what &#8220;might be?&#8221;  </p>
<p>Where is the properly thought out, structured, fiscally responsible plan for doing this that members can see? Discuss? By our own admission there is not one, and will not be one in even a minimally effective amount of time to take it to the general membership for thought and consideration, so just how much do we really care about what those members think? I would have to say not a whole lot. We are told we will have only a cobbled up version that is &#8220;subject to massive changes&#8221; once voted on, that delegates will get when? A day, a week, before they have to vote on it?  If this is the first example of how those &#8220;few&#8221; are so much more qualified to run the organization, of their planning abilities, I would have to say that it is falling really, really short of the hype about their abilities. I would have to say that those who really are being allowed to vote better start looking at that utter lack of planning with cold hard realism not pink wishes and puppy dog tails. </p>
<p>Nae<br />
Nae</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
		<link>http://mttoolsonline.com/2010/07/15/ahdi-proposes-blueprint-for-great-governance/comment-page-1/#comment-1141</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is indeed how it has always been when we discuss dissolving the HOD. It is the HOD who will have to vote to dissolve themselves. On that note, however, what I find very interesting in these comments is no one really seems to be too upset about that part. What I believe I hear people saying is &quot;don&#039;t mess with my component.&quot; As Miriam said above about her reasons for belonging, it&#039;s about the &quot;tribe&quot; we associate with. When we fear that going away, it is a threat and we get nervous. With the lack of real interest from membership about the House of Delegates, and the lack of information from delegates (whether they have it or not, in many cases there isn&#039;t much communication there), perhaps the HOD is an idea that has served its purpose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is indeed how it has always been when we discuss dissolving the HOD. It is the HOD who will have to vote to dissolve themselves. On that note, however, what I find very interesting in these comments is no one really seems to be too upset about that part. What I believe I hear people saying is &#8220;don&#8217;t mess with my component.&#8221; As Miriam said above about her reasons for belonging, it&#8217;s about the &#8220;tribe&#8221; we associate with. When we fear that going away, it is a threat and we get nervous. With the lack of real interest from membership about the House of Delegates, and the lack of information from delegates (whether they have it or not, in many cases there isn&#8217;t much communication there), perhaps the HOD is an idea that has served its purpose.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to comment on this one as it&#039;s an age-old question. What delegates, and even board members, have always been told is they are charged with making decisions in the best interest of the association. Unfortunately, that is not always what&#039;s the absolute best, or even perceived best, for any individual state. One thing we have always said as an organization is that &quot;you may get more information once you get to the meeting that you didn&#039;t have and may mean you change how you feel about an issue.&quot; And therein perhaps is the flaw. If we have that kind of information, let&#039;s get it out and share it before it&#039;s time to vote. That allows for truly informed decisions on everyone&#039;s part. What I DO agree with is that once a decision is made, leaders have a responsibility to support it, no matter how they felt or voted on it. I don&#039;t want to see a &quot;rift&quot; within the leadership of the organization and think that&#039;s important. In this particular case, the decision isn&#039;t made yet, no matter how much it may feel like it is. So discussion is important so everyone has all of the facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to comment on this one as it&#8217;s an age-old question. What delegates, and even board members, have always been told is they are charged with making decisions in the best interest of the association. Unfortunately, that is not always what&#8217;s the absolute best, or even perceived best, for any individual state. One thing we have always said as an organization is that &#8220;you may get more information once you get to the meeting that you didn&#8217;t have and may mean you change how you feel about an issue.&#8221; And therein perhaps is the flaw. If we have that kind of information, let&#8217;s get it out and share it before it&#8217;s time to vote. That allows for truly informed decisions on everyone&#8217;s part. What I DO agree with is that once a decision is made, leaders have a responsibility to support it, no matter how they felt or voted on it. I don&#8217;t want to see a &#8220;rift&#8221; within the leadership of the organization and think that&#8217;s important. In this particular case, the decision isn&#8217;t made yet, no matter how much it may feel like it is. So discussion is important so everyone has all of the facts.</p>
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		<title>By: MiriamWilmothCMT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiriamWilmothCMT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 19:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, I can&#039;t answer for anyone but myself, but the greatest value to me is the relationships that I&#039;ve been blessed to build over the years, the networking opportunities that come through involvement in component life, and the continuing education that sharpens my skills.  Yes, I can get CE&#039;s in a multitude of places now besides depending solely on AHDI meetings or publications; and I enjoy social networking and the worlds that have opened as a result.  However, there is nothing that can take place of the friendships and business connections that have developed in my life these last 20 years through my involvement in the association.  As you know - as we all know - transcription can be a lonely, difficult job, and there is just something about the camaraderie that develops through sharing interests, working shoulder-to-shoulder on projects, and participating in activities together that is very edifying, at least it has been for me. 

Staying involved in a local component and a growing regional association is a key piece of the &quot;magic&quot; for me - perhaps it is the danger of losing that connection, and seeing our next generation of MTs have to manage without it and knowing what a void that may be for them, that fuels my passion for wanting to be sure changes we make are done the right way and with members, and their needs, always our central focus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, I can&#8217;t answer for anyone but myself, but the greatest value to me is the relationships that I&#8217;ve been blessed to build over the years, the networking opportunities that come through involvement in component life, and the continuing education that sharpens my skills.  Yes, I can get CE&#8217;s in a multitude of places now besides depending solely on AHDI meetings or publications; and I enjoy social networking and the worlds that have opened as a result.  However, there is nothing that can take place of the friendships and business connections that have developed in my life these last 20 years through my involvement in the association.  As you know &#8211; as we all know &#8211; transcription can be a lonely, difficult job, and there is just something about the camaraderie that develops through sharing interests, working shoulder-to-shoulder on projects, and participating in activities together that is very edifying, at least it has been for me. </p>
<p>Staying involved in a local component and a growing regional association is a key piece of the &#8220;magic&#8221; for me &#8211; perhaps it is the danger of losing that connection, and seeing our next generation of MTs have to manage without it and knowing what a void that may be for them, that fuels my passion for wanting to be sure changes we make are done the right way and with members, and their needs, always our central focus.</p>
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		<title>By: JulieW8</title>
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		<dc:creator>JulieW8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have to ask - why are you still a member of the association? What value do you find in it?

I didn&#039;t join MTIA when it was first formed years ago because for a $1,000/year membership, I wouldn&#039;t have been allowed to vote. If I don&#039;t feel I have an adequate voice, I don&#039;t feel my money is well spent.

So what do you feel you&#039;re getting for your money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just have to ask &#8211; why are you still a member of the association? What value do you find in it?</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t join MTIA when it was first formed years ago because for a $1,000/year membership, I wouldn&#8217;t have been allowed to vote. If I don&#8217;t feel I have an adequate voice, I don&#8217;t feel my money is well spent.</p>
<p>So what do you feel you&#8217;re getting for your money?</p>
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		<title>By: MiriamWilmothCMT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiriamWilmothCMT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lisa - I think that&#039;s another huge problem here.  I think members elect delegates THINKING they will represent them on the issues.  Just as we are being led to believe that at large BOD members will represent the interests of all members in the new governance structure.  If there is this much ambiguity in what the delegates&#039; roles are, then there&#039;s no wonder we&#039;re all confused.

If my delegate, or my at-large BOD member, is NOT there to vote according to my interests, opinions, or values, then how are they going to be represented?  Do I have a voice in this association, or don&#039;t I?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa &#8211; I think that&#8217;s another huge problem here.  I think members elect delegates THINKING they will represent them on the issues.  Just as we are being led to believe that at large BOD members will represent the interests of all members in the new governance structure.  If there is this much ambiguity in what the delegates&#8217; roles are, then there&#8217;s no wonder we&#8217;re all confused.</p>
<p>If my delegate, or my at-large BOD member, is NOT there to vote according to my interests, opinions, or values, then how are they going to be represented?  Do I have a voice in this association, or don&#8217;t I?</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Farragut</title>
		<link>http://mttoolsonline.com/2010/07/15/ahdi-proposes-blueprint-for-great-governance/comment-page-1/#comment-1136</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Farragut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reminded many times that we elect the delegates to make decisions and that the delegates do NOT have to vote the way the members want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reminded many times that we elect the delegates to make decisions and that the delegates do NOT have to vote the way the members want.</p>
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		<title>By: JulieW8</title>
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		<dc:creator>JulieW8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the HOD is voting on this - in what will apparently be their last act?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the HOD is voting on this &#8211; in what will apparently be their last act?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 21:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue, great input. I think for the most part, the average member really doesn&#039;t care about governance issues. I am quite interested as I scroll through comments here that what I seem to see is a pattern that says &quot;don&#039;t threaten our local organizations.&quot; Not much that says we want to keep the House of Delegates. That may be a sign that it&#039;s served its purpose where members are concerned, I don&#039;t know. As I understand it, the local organizations can continue to meet, it just won&#039;t be a &quot;formal&quot; organization, as the only formal organizations we will have are the districts. I think, with Crystal&#039;s comments about paid staff, there is some consideration to having all of the funds managed by the AHDI staff, although the actual decisions about how those are allocated would rest with the board of governors for the district. 

The decisions at this point will come down to how the delegates vote in the House of Delegates next month. What I hoped here was to get people started thinking and talking about it because it didn&#039;t seem there was much of that other than the webinars that AHDI offered. Once an actual resolution is published, it may answer some of the questions people have about what it looks like going forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue, great input. I think for the most part, the average member really doesn&#8217;t care about governance issues. I am quite interested as I scroll through comments here that what I seem to see is a pattern that says &#8220;don&#8217;t threaten our local organizations.&#8221; Not much that says we want to keep the House of Delegates. That may be a sign that it&#8217;s served its purpose where members are concerned, I don&#8217;t know. As I understand it, the local organizations can continue to meet, it just won&#8217;t be a &#8220;formal&#8221; organization, as the only formal organizations we will have are the districts. I think, with Crystal&#8217;s comments about paid staff, there is some consideration to having all of the funds managed by the AHDI staff, although the actual decisions about how those are allocated would rest with the board of governors for the district. </p>
<p>The decisions at this point will come down to how the delegates vote in the House of Delegates next month. What I hoped here was to get people started thinking and talking about it because it didn&#8217;t seem there was much of that other than the webinars that AHDI offered. Once an actual resolution is published, it may answer some of the questions people have about what it looks like going forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello everyone!  We are still trying to get back to “normal” (WHAT is normal?!?!?) after returning from our trip.  Our bodies are still recovering from West Coast time and Alaska time.  It’s so hard to get back into your routine after it changes so dramatically for a period of time!

After reading Kathy&#039;s blog and the various responses, here are my thoughts on a few points...   

1)  Crystal said something interesting that the association might want to think about.  She suggested having paid professionals manage the association instead of volunteers.   I think having paid folks running the show instead of volunteers has the potential to improve things.  Many homeowners associations have stopped letting residents run their associations and they’ve hired (paid) management groups to run them.  Having lived in a neighborhood where this transition took place, it was a HUGE improvement. In this scenario, the residents still had a role in many things and  had a major voice in how things were run, but the paid professionals did the bookkeeping and managed other tasks.
2)  How the association is structured is really of no concern to me….whether we have districts, no districts, whatever.  What IS important to me is that we have an association that is run efficiently and addresses the needs of its members.  The structure that will best achieve that goal is the one we should have.
3) Like Kathy, I am not a fan of “local only” memberships.  I feel that members need to be part of the “big picture” as well as the local picture in the association.  
4) Kathy wrote that, “the notion of an actual organization in our local areas will soon be seen as redundant and disappear.”  Wow. I REALLY hope that this does NOT happen! There is SO MUCH benefit that members get from their local chapters….IF, of course, they take advantage of joining them and being involved in them. For me personally, people from my local chapter and other local chapters have played a *huge* part in my professional development and networking.  The key here is that I met these people THROUGH the local associations.

Well, that’s it for now.  I could probably write more, but these were the things that immediately stood out for me in the discussion.  Hope everyone is having a great weekend!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone!  We are still trying to get back to “normal” (WHAT is normal?!?!?) after returning from our trip.  Our bodies are still recovering from West Coast time and Alaska time.  It’s so hard to get back into your routine after it changes so dramatically for a period of time!</p>
<p>After reading Kathy&#8217;s blog and the various responses, here are my thoughts on a few points&#8230;   </p>
<p>1)  Crystal said something interesting that the association might want to think about.  She suggested having paid professionals manage the association instead of volunteers.   I think having paid folks running the show instead of volunteers has the potential to improve things.  Many homeowners associations have stopped letting residents run their associations and they’ve hired (paid) management groups to run them.  Having lived in a neighborhood where this transition took place, it was a HUGE improvement. In this scenario, the residents still had a role in many things and  had a major voice in how things were run, but the paid professionals did the bookkeeping and managed other tasks.<br />
2)  How the association is structured is really of no concern to me….whether we have districts, no districts, whatever.  What IS important to me is that we have an association that is run efficiently and addresses the needs of its members.  The structure that will best achieve that goal is the one we should have.<br />
3) Like Kathy, I am not a fan of “local only” memberships.  I feel that members need to be part of the “big picture” as well as the local picture in the association.<br />
4) Kathy wrote that, “the notion of an actual organization in our local areas will soon be seen as redundant and disappear.”  Wow. I REALLY hope that this does NOT happen! There is SO MUCH benefit that members get from their local chapters….IF, of course, they take advantage of joining them and being involved in them. For me personally, people from my local chapter and other local chapters have played a *huge* part in my professional development and networking.  The key here is that I met these people THROUGH the local associations.</p>
<p>Well, that’s it for now.  I could probably write more, but these were the things that immediately stood out for me in the discussion.  Hope everyone is having a great weekend!!</p>
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